♆ Imagination, retreat and illusion

The Neptune Line in Astrocartography

Neptune's four lines run through the places where Neptune was on the horizon or the meridian at the moment of your birth. Astrology connects Neptune with imagination, music and film, the sea, faith and retreat, and also with confusion, deception, escapism and addiction. So astrocartographers read Neptune lines in two registers at once: places that can feel inspired or spiritually charged, and places where it is easy to lose your footing, your money or your sense of what is real.

Neptune is the planet that was found on paper before anyone saw it, and, after Pluto, the slowest planet on the map. This page covers both, follows Barack Obama's four Neptune lines from Paris to Yangon to Texas, and shows why Neptune, though it barely moved in the weeks around his birth, has lines that would sit in entirely different countries had he been born half an hour later.

Barack Obama's Neptune Lines

Obama's birth certificate puts him in Honolulu at 7:24 PM on August 4, 1961, and for that moment (05:24 UTC) Neptune stood at 8°36′ Scorpio. The lines below come from the site's API, the same request the astrocartography map sends for his chart, with each point verified offline and the distance from every listed city to each line measured.

Neptune IC line: Paris, Barcelona and the Bight of Benin along 1°41′ E

IC

His Neptune IC line is almost the Greenwich meridian, 1°41′ east of it. It passes between London (126 km to the west) and Paris (48 km to the east), runs down France past Toulouse (21 km), crosses the Pyrenees to Barcelona (38 km) and the Balearic Sea past Palma, and reaches Africa west of Algiers. Across the Sahara it passes 44 km from Niamey and reaches the Gulf of Guinea between Lomé (53 km) and Cotonou, with Lagos further east.

Below the horizon at the IC, Neptune turns the home into a refuge: a place of retreat, near water by preference, good for creative or contemplative work done in private. The shadow reading is a home life that is vague or unstable, family business kept hidden, or property deals that turn out not to be what they seemed. On that reading it suits a retreat better than a house purchase.

Largest cities within 200 km of Obama's Neptune IC line (site city list; suburbs within 30 km folded into the larger city)
CityCountryDistanceSide of the line
LagosNigeria187 kmeast
LondonUnited Kingdom126 kmwest
AlgiersAlgeria124 kmeast
LoméTogo53 kmwest
ParisFrance48 kmeast
BarcelonaSpain38 kmeast
NiameyNiger44 kmeast
BrusselsBelgium186 kmeast
ValenciaSpain178 kmwest
AbeokutaNigeria182 kmeast

Neptune MC line: the date line along 178°18′ W

MC

The top of the sky belonged to Neptune along 178°18′ W, a meridian that runs almost the full length of the Pacific close to the date line, past the Aleutians and Fiji's eastern islands, and no listed city lies within 200 km of it. In Honolulu Neptune had already culminated: it crossed the meridian at 6:04 PM, 1 hour 19 minutes before Obama was born, and that places the line 20°26′ west of Honolulu.

Culminating, Neptune gives a public image that is hard to pin down: a career in the arts, film, music, photography, charity, healing or anything that sells an idea or a mood, and a reputation that others project onto you. The caution is a career built on illusion, scandal or uncertainty about what you actually do.

Neptune ASC line: Yangon to Lake Baikal

ASC

The rising line runs almost through Yangon (2 km), north through eastern Myanmar, east of Nay Pyi Taw and Mandalay, into Yunnan west of Lincang and Baoshan, and north across western China past Xining (78 km), Lanzhou and Wuwei. It crosses Mongolia 90 km from Ulaanbaatar and reaches Siberia between Ulan-Ude and Chita, east of Lake Baikal. South of Myanmar it heads into the Indian Ocean.

Rising, Neptune softens the way you meet people: people see in you what they hope to see, you pick up atmospheres easily, and you feel less defined. The line is often linked with artistic and spiritual openness and with poor boundaries, physical sensitivity and a tendency to escapism.

Cities within 200 km of Obama's Neptune ASC line
CityCountryDistanceSide of the line
YangonMyanmar2 kmeast
LanzhouChina119 kmeast
XiningChina78 kmwest
MandalayMyanmar154 kmwest
WuweiChina49 kmwest
BaoshanChina55 kmeast
Nay Pyi TawMyanmar85 kmwest
Ulan BatorMongolia90 kmwest
MawlamyineMyanmar162 kmeast
Ulan-UdeRussia198 kmwest

Neptune DSC line: the Prairies, Texas and southern Mexico

DSC

The setting line crosses the Canadian Prairies near Saskatoon (55 km) and Regina, runs down the Great Plains past Wichita and Oklahoma City, and crosses Texas from Fort Worth (41 km) and Dallas past Austin (77 km) to the coast between Houston and Corpus Christi. Across the Gulf of Mexico it comes ashore near Villahermosa (14 km), crosses Chiapas past Tuxtla, and reaches the Pacific at Tapachula (5 km) on the Guatemalan border.

On the Descendant Neptune is read as idealized partnerships: partners who seem ideal at first, relationships with an artistic or spiritual bond, and a habit of rescuing or being rescued. The caution is the classic Neptune one: deception or self-deception about the other person, and business partnerships where the terms are never quite clear.

Largest cities within 200 km of Obama's Neptune DSC line
CityCountryDistanceSide of the line
HoustonUnited States126 kmeast
San AntonioUnited States174 kmwest
DallasUnited States89 kmeast
Fort WorthUnited States41 kmeast
Guatemala CityGuatemala169 kmeast
AustinUnited States77 kmwest
Oklahoma CityUnited States113 kmeast
TuxtlaMexico40 kmwest
Heroica MatamorosMexico198 kmwest
WichitaUnited States200 kmeast
Longitude of Obama's Neptune rising and setting lines at fixed latitudes, from the site's API
LatitudeASC lineDSC line
60° N118°02′ E114°38′ W
45° N106°32′ E103°08′ W
30° N100°12′ E96°48′ W
15° N95°38′ E92°14′ W
Equator91°41′ E88°18′ W
15° S87°45′ E84°21′ W
30° S83°11′ E79°47′ W
45° S76°51′ E73°27′ W

The Planet Found on Paper

Uranus did not keep to the orbit calculated for it, and in 1846 Urbain Le Verrier in Paris worked out where an unseen planet would have to be to pull it off course. Johann Galle, helped by Heinrich d'Arrest, looked at that spot from the Berlin Observatory on September 23, 1846 and found Neptune within about a degree of the prediction; John Couch Adams in Cambridge had made a similar calculation. Neptune had in fact been seen long before: Galileo's drawings from December 1612 and January 1613 record it as a fixed star near Jupiter. Like Uranus, Neptune has no place in traditional astrology, and its meanings, from the sea god's name to the themes of dissolution and illusion, are modern.

A full circuit of the zodiac takes Neptune about 165 years, some 14 years in each sign, and in 1961 it was in Scorpio. It moves so slowly that a birth one day later, at the same clock time, would shift its lines only 0°58′, nearly all of it the difference between a solar day and the Earth's turn against the stars. At Obama's birth it had just stationed: it turned direct at 8°32′ Scorpio on July 20, 1961 and was moving about 30 seconds of arc a day. It would not turn retrograde again until February 13, 1962.

Neptune Near the Edge of Its Path

Neptune's orbit is tilted less than two degrees, and in our 1900 to 2050 scan its latitude never went past 1°49′. Obama was born when Neptune was close to that limit, 1°46′ north, so his Neptune lines are a fair test of what the zodiacal method does to a slow outer planet. The answer is: not much, but not nothing. Drawn from Neptune itself (in mundo), as Jim Lewis drew them, the meridian lines would move 0°34′ east, about 65 km at the equator; the curved lines would shift as much as 220 km at 60° N:

How far Obama's Neptune lines would move if drawn from Neptune itself (in mundo)
LatitudeRising line movesSetting line moves
45° S2°24′ east (190 km)1°14′ west (98 km)
30° S1°37′ east (156 km)0°27′ west (44 km)
Equator0°34′ east (65 km)0°34′ east (65 km)
30° N0°27′ west (44 km)1°37′ east (156 km)
45° N1°14′ west (98 km)2°24′ east (190 km)
60° N2°48′ west (156 km)3°57′ east (220 km)

Compare his Moon, whose latitude of 5°14′ moves its rising line 731 km at 60° N. For Neptune the cities hardly change: drawn in mundo, the rising line still passes Yangon, Xining and Ulaanbaatar, and the setting line still runs past Houston, Dallas and Fort Worth. The birth time matters far more than the method, as the next section shows.

Half an Hour, Four Different Countries

A slow planet does not make for stable lines, because the lines are carried around the globe by the Earth's rotation. Had Obama been born at 7:54 PM, every Neptune line would sit 7°31′ farther west. The MC line, empty Pacific in the real chart, would cross New Zealand through Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch. The IC line would leave Paris and Barcelona for Madrid, Tangier, Fes, Rabat and Casablanca. The rising line would move from Yangon to Dhaka and Kolkata, and the setting line from Texas to Mexico City, Guadalajara and, in Canada, Calgary.

So a birth time rounded to the half hour can put Neptune's lines in four different countries. Jim Lewis's orbs were wide enough to blur some of that: a quarter of an inch of his map in 1976, roughly 300 to 400 miles, and up to 700 miles in his 1982 handbook. At 700 miles, 715 of the site's cities (31%) fall inside that distance of one Neptune line or another. Narrower is more useful, and an accurate time most useful of all; the pre-filled map shows his real lines.

Where is your Neptune line?

To find your own Neptune lines, give the map your birth date, time and place; it draws Neptune's four lines among all forty and measures them from any city.

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Neptune Line FAQ

What does the Neptune line mean in astrocartography?

Each Neptune line follows the places where Neptune sat on the horizon, rising or setting, or on the meridian when you were born. Neptune stands for imagination, music and film, the sea, faith and retreat, and also confusion and escapism, so its lines are read as inspiring and disorienting at once, good for creative or spiritual work and risky for decisions that need clear facts.

Is the Neptune IC line good for a home?

It puts Neptune at the bottom of a chart cast there, the angle of home. It is read as a home that is a refuge or retreat, often near water, with the caution that domestic and property matters can be unclear. In Barack Obama's map it follows 1°41′ E, between London and Paris and through Barcelona.

Is a Neptune line good for artists?

On the usual reading it suits artists, musicians and anyone whose work depends on imagination, especially the MC and Ascendant lines. The same readings warn about vague finances, unreliable partners and escapism, so it suits a creative period better than running a business.

Why are Neptune lines linked with confusion?

Because astrology links Neptune with dissolution and illusion: boundaries blur, things look better or worse than they are, and it is easier to deceive or be deceived. Astrocartographers carry that reading onto the map, so the practical advice that goes with it is to check contracts and facts twice on a Neptune line.

How was Neptune found, and does that matter for its lines?

Urbain Le Verrier predicted its position from the pull on Uranus, and Johann Galle found it at Berlin on September 23, 1846. Its astrological meanings are therefore modern. Its lines are drawn like any other planet's, from its position at your birth.

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